tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post1420871794724217611..comments2024-03-03T22:26:59.742+00:00Comments on Happy Muslim Mama: Islam, the Caste System and MarriageHappy Muslim Mamahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16144849663355612169noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-77404368028865428312015-12-01T07:23:27.588+00:002015-12-01T07:23:27.588+00:00I agreed, we should do this in our practical life ...I agreed, we should do this in our practical life not only commenting on blog.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-50613170212577466932015-06-23T23:43:19.222+01:002015-06-23T23:43:19.222+01:00Ya'Allah, may Allah swt bless all of you who a...Ya'Allah, may Allah swt bless all of you who are suffering due to the caste system into happy and prosperous marriages and guide your families into the true meaning of Islam and marriage. Unfortunately I too am in the middle of my parents favouring izzat and caste over my happiness. Its sad as I told my parenrs last night and my dad gave me a lecture about how we should marry within our caste and how doing this means the marriage is sucessful and blessed.. My mum on the other hand cried because she is losing her izzat and people will look down on her because i want to marry someone who is not the same caste as me. It doesnt matter what we do as children but unfortunately, may Allah guide them and remove this dunyas pretences from their hearts, it is what will lose the proper relationships children have with their parents. Caste is not an Islamic protocol and even more so is not a reason to refuse a marriage. Further, izzat is a cultural manifestation which causes prid, big egos and arrogance. This is the opposite od what a true Muslim should be as it is cultural approval prople long for, instead of Allah swt approval. May Allah swt help us all and guide those who are under these false impressions to happy relationships.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-84174325037947157372014-06-29T02:29:22.197+01:002014-06-29T02:29:22.197+01:00Only people with no Islamic knowledge or common se...Only people with no Islamic knowledge or common sense judge other people based on caste. Even in this day and age marriages are based on caste aswell. it makes my blood boil soo much. If Almighty has mentioned in the Quraan that he honours people who are pious. Why the hell do these uneducated asians who seriously lack incredible amount of knowledge point fingers and judge poeple regarding caste. caste means fxxx all. Get a grip you pathetic idiots Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-20383966408816890472013-11-26T17:31:58.196+00:002013-11-26T17:31:58.196+00:00This is exactly what me and my older sister are fa...This is exactly what me and my older sister are facing at the moment. we are 'jatts' which means nothing to either of us and the people we wanted to get married are not.. how does our family manage to be more considerate to other peoples feelings that ours? i mean they think that their happiness is above ours and that we get mixed up in love - but they want us to sacrifice our lives for them.. i mean its just disappointing that they do not learn from mistakes and have been caught up in the caste system where there is nothing to do with someones imaan and faith and its all about getting one up on someone else due to some social heirarchy that hardly anyone cares about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-44907970730707502142013-06-23T04:07:15.265+01:002013-06-23T04:07:15.265+01:00Kashif. You mention the fact that some Muslims are...Kashif. You mention the fact that some Muslims are leaving Islam in droves and embracing Christianity. I Asian culture how does that actually help their cause, the way I understand it Christians are treated even worse. You also say you hate sayyids! If you you are a Muslim than you might like to think about this. How is the holy prophet refered to "ya sayyidi"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-5076177016988617802013-06-23T03:53:55.677+01:002013-06-23T03:53:55.677+01:00I'm sorry to hear that you are scarred by the ...I'm sorry to hear that you are scarred by the fact that you were discriminated against especially considering that Islam promotes equality BUT how does, you having a BOYFRIEND fit into Islam?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-22624778080444521042013-02-17T10:48:29.962+00:002013-02-17T10:48:29.962+00:00The reason i hate pakistan I was born in Pakistan ...The reason i hate pakistan I was born in Pakistan in low caste muslim family so called high caste muslims they treat us like shit we cant even sit with them if they are sitting on chair we have to sit on ground they dont eat with us they will come to our weddings for eat but they dont go with barat nor only uneducated people do that but educated do the same I m muslim imagine if I was non muslim.so tell me how can I love my country which gave us nothing but shamfull worthles ID?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-30097753316853754302012-07-26T12:13:39.620+01:002012-07-26T12:13:39.620+01:00ASALAM ALYKUM
please go through my concern propoe...ASALAM ALYKUM<br /><br />please go through my concern propoerly.<br /><br />Just want to bring to every ones notice that im in long distance relationship with a girl from last 11 years, who is a muslim as well, our relationship is no more because girl's family members are not willing to marry her to me because of my caste, which they think is inferior to their caste. Girl has left me because she can not face her family. now im collecting some material where in i can prove them that they are wrong. in order to defend themselves they always says that if caste system does not exist then why MUHAMMAD(SAW) took birth in Qurayash tribe n not in any other tribe, bcz quraysh tribe was the superior that what they say all the time. if anyone has answer about it please let me know. im in deep trouble . please help me out. my contact no as if now is 9419390724. would be great.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05952426534922838130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-31943559817045900312012-07-01T11:54:25.133+01:002012-07-01T11:54:25.133+01:00Assalamualaikum - This blog is very interesting.i ...Assalamualaikum - This blog is very interesting.i don't understand this caste system at all.i am an Indian,and the girl I wish to marry is Pakistani.we have everything in common..but because her family are great believers of the caste system..i am not good enough for her simply because I'm Indian.we both live in the UK.I am Hafiz..I graduate from my university course in 2 weeks..and i've started my new job.I feel as if I can make a start on our future together Inshallah.but because of this caste system,n her parents worry of 'izzat' and what the community are going to say.i hate it.on the Day of Judgement..Allah isn't going to separate us into our castes and nations is He?so why are we separating ourselves?it should be Muslim and proud..not Paki and proud..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-17021470693101160222012-06-26T12:46:18.804+01:002012-06-26T12:46:18.804+01:00Thanks for your post, and I totally agree with you...Thanks for your post, and I totally agree with you that judging people on the basis of their caste or occupation is tragic. But we should realize that this happens everywhere, in every country, among members of all religions. As a non-religious person living in a western European country, I see the rich of my society living in their beautiful houses and looking down on the lower classes, for instance, the men that come to paint their beautiful houses. The painters are low-class, uneducated, not really worthy of a conversation. They are just people who come to do the work. And if the son of the rich family fell in love with the daughter of the painter, whould the rich parents approve of the wedding? Hardly..... As you can see, class discrimination happens everywhere, whether it is based on caste or not. It is so sad, and I hope that we will all someday realize (most likely long after I am gone....) that we are all TRULY equal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-60644448382466436072012-02-28T03:21:36.745+00:002012-02-28T03:21:36.745+00:00Exactly I'm also in the same position as you a...Exactly I'm also in the same position as you and totally diagree with the caste system. Islam allows us to marry but it's the cultural barrier that comes in between which should not interefere at all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-69985997572552299582011-11-20T16:40:52.621+00:002011-11-20T16:40:52.621+00:00Assalamu alaikum Yeah! I am an Indian! There is...Assalamu alaikum Yeah! I am an Indian! There is no justice in casteism. Casteism is total b**lsh*t. It is pissing me off! Even the educated people of modern India still practising rituals and oppresssing lower caste people. Higher People tend to become arrogant when we try to explain them. Lower caste people says we are supposed to be oppressed because we were criminal in previous birth or it is the law of 'Gods'. I fear my hatred may become reversed by 'reverse psychology'. Please pray for me!best products' sellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08518866529928139491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-55285345640305074912011-11-16T20:16:26.172+00:002011-11-16T20:16:26.172+00:00Assalam-alaikam,
thank you for all of you interest...Assalam-alaikam,<br />thank you for all of you interesting and thought provoking comments. Personally I am still seeing a lot of of people considering caste when getting married, but more and more young people who have grown up here andknow nothing about caste defying their parents wishes on this matter (including one or two of my family members).<br /><br />Anonymous dear, May Allah (SWT) make things esaier for you an dbring peace to your heart and help you towards what is best for you insh'Allah.<br /><br />Brother Ali, <br />jazakh'Allah-khairun for the link, looks interesting and I will certainly make the time to read it.<br /><br />Sister Unknown,<br />Insh'Allah and ameen to your words about the coming generations following the Quran and sunnah and throwing this thing off.Happy Muslim Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16144849663355612169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-36924866043056697582011-11-16T16:13:08.129+00:002011-11-16T16:13:08.129+00:00Alhamdulilah! I enjoyed reading your post....
I ...Alhamdulilah! I enjoyed reading your post.... <br />I personally feel that the caste system will die off, InshaALLAH if the next generation make a change for the better and follow Islam according to the QURAN and SUNNAH. This would save so many from the hell fire!Asiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09701795570468209497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-52260256072334706192011-09-17T12:54:49.747+01:002011-09-17T12:54:49.747+01:00fundamentally all pakistanis are descended from hi...fundamentally all pakistanis are descended from hindus and sikhs and many landowners refused to leave pakistan during partition and preferred to change religion rather than lose their land. They could not fully accept islam and preferred to taint islam and make it into Sikhslam- whereby they took up and accepted the best parts of both religions. In islam it is clear cut- all men are equal and by their actions and refusal to accept this- they are destined for hellfire. Any believing muslim should throw stone these people- because they accepted islam and then try to mutate islam to suit their ancestorial beliefs.<br />The Prophet fought against these people all his life- read and understand his life and then you will see descendants of Abu Sufian in their actions.<br />iSLAM HAS NO NEED OF pISLAMIS- THEY HAVE NEED OF ISLAM AND URGENTLY.<br />Islam is not backward but progressive and forward thinking. Remember- Islam tells us to shut shaitan and all his peoples and vassels for they would take you off the right path. belivers of the caste system are not people of the book and are closer to Satan than allah and by their hearts and actions will they be judged.<br />Iqra Iqra Iqra- were the first words heard by the Prophet PBUH- not Jat Jat Jat !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-78882322450732635302011-08-15T11:21:39.374+01:002011-08-15T11:21:39.374+01:00i also agree that caste system is totally wrong.bu...i also agree that caste system is totally wrong.but in my city i m sirprised to hear some educated people also believe on such type of caste systemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-43595605783052829292011-01-29T15:34:25.571+00:002011-01-29T15:34:25.571+00:00i agree.. the caste system is totally wrong.. im f...i agree.. the caste system is totally wrong.. im from the 'jatt' clan and the guy i want to marry isnt.. so my family are not giving me permission to marry him.. at the end of the day he's muslim and so am i.. thats all that should matter right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-7240473872491972432010-07-09T21:18:51.469+01:002010-07-09T21:18:51.469+01:00Slmz again..
His parents didn't even want to g...Slmz again..<br />His parents didn't even want to get to know me..did'nt meet me.I'm stil grieving over him..in tears atm:(but I won't give up.his parents,I pray,will learn to accept me and treat me as an equal.ameen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-81431484001530053812010-07-09T21:13:11.654+01:002010-07-09T21:13:11.654+01:00Imagine that..I'm hated solely because I'm...Imagine that..I'm hated solely because I'm urdu speaking.his parents didn't give me a chance..didn't even wish to meet me.I'm still grieving over losing him due to this injustice..I don't know what to do with myself because of the depression:(:(But I'm not giving up.his parents are wrong,naiive and outdated to believ in this nonsense cast system.they'l eventually will have to accept me,right?I can't live without my guy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-30033429052105853822010-07-09T21:00:43.524+01:002010-07-09T21:00:43.524+01:00I'm an Indian muslim from South Africa and the...I'm an Indian muslim from South Africa and the caste system here is worse than ever..especially in the smaller towns in northern KwaZulu Natal.I was literally left broken..completely depressed when my boyfriend's parents found out that I'm Urdu speaking..this is the guy whom I wanted to marry,but due to his parents strong belief in the caste system,they prevented him from havin anything to do with me.this is discrimination in the first degree.I am still deeply scarred..as muslims we are all equal.just don't understand some people..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-71908689568707150732010-07-05T14:27:08.191+01:002010-07-05T14:27:08.191+01:00"nai" "mochi" what the heck is..."nai" "mochi" what the heck is all this crap? how does a tribal name given to a tribe tell us something about that TRIBES CHARACTER IN THE phuking year 2010?mrsonichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384565292097299207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-91418844778403433942010-07-05T14:23:39.511+01:002010-07-05T14:23:39.511+01:00testtestmrsonichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384565292097299207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-50998146144661502442010-03-28T19:59:33.208+01:002010-03-28T19:59:33.208+01:00Due to casteism in Islam lower castes Muslim are l...Due to casteism in Islam lower castes Muslim are leaving Islam in droves. Here in Bihar of India, 2 millions Muslims have converted to Christianity because of racism, color discrimination and casteism in Islam. The number is expected to increase in future. When I tried to post this info along with links and proofs on wikipedia, it was repeatedly deleted. Muslims are doomed because they hate themselves. When one hates itself, it becomes sick! I hate some Muslims like Sayyids and Pathans. Naxalites are already killing Ashraf Muslims and taking revenge in Bihar. talk about future of isla..huhkashifnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-84062060078278373282009-04-05T09:13:00.000+01:002009-04-05T09:13:00.000+01:00Assalam-alaikam,It’s nice to known that most (if n...Assalam-alaikam,<BR/>It’s nice to known that most (if not all) of the Islamic youth believe in the true teaching of Quran, i.e., radical social equality. It’s due to some so called Islamic scholars that the feeling of universal Muslim brotherhood is just confined to mosques during namaz. But when it comes to marriage even most of the learned people starts looking for the caste and beradari. These so called Islamic scholars (Hey not all), who consider themselves and certain weak Hadiths above the verses of The Holy Quran that the so called caste system has been incorporated within the Muslim society of Indian subcontinent. If one is really interested in knowing how the caste system was introduced in Muslim society of Indian subcontinent than check http://www.countercurrents.org/sikand150204.htm I hope we youths will try to eliminate this un-Islamic caste system from ur society (and OUR FAMILY). We must stand for the TRUTH.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5398611943115596793.post-7057209431368071332009-03-09T09:09:00.000+00:002009-03-09T09:09:00.000+00:00Aslamu alakum sisnice to bringup this very importa...Aslamu alakum sis<BR/>nice to bringup this very important topic. Angers me much as a Indian from a low caste this is something that brought much distaste to my life. Man made classs systems to oppress the weak...........When in India once i was beackoned to the villa ofa wealthy lady ,she had familyin the Uk and justwanted to chat. When the maid girl opened the door she , i went to go in, she blocked me and toldme to wait on the door step on the side, i asked why when i had been invited? I flipped when i soon realised.........i turned on my heals and marched of shouting if she wants to see me then she can come to my hut! Thelady cameout saying sorry no ,please come in , having ago at the maid telling her in the UK they don't carry this practice, really that was a shock for me , how dare they i though! Alhamdyuillah becoming Muslimah and freeing myself from such iggorant attitudes alhamduilah.<BR/><BR/>The ammount of times i was asked growing up what caste are you ? mum told me tell them you don't know what they mean. Then as i got older i would be cheaky and say the human kind!Rainbow In The Grey Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11884199498310835920noreply@blogger.com